Increased public discussion and debate is currently taking place on the state of policing in South Africa. This was brought on by the flagrant abuse of power by police during the Covid-19 national lockdown, violence experienced during the #FeesMustFall campaign, as well as the global spotlight placed on policing by the #BlackLivesMatter movement. Join Corruption Watch’s Melusi Ncala in conversation with Themba Masuku from the African Policing Civilian Oversight Forum (APCOF), as well as Prof. Jacklyn Cock from Wits University, to discuss issues relating to police brutality in South Africa and the need for a human rights based approach to policing.